27 Responses to “Nielsons REFUSE to give the baby back despite court order!”

1. The Tennison famuly needs to file a lawsuit against this couple and the adoption agency and even the birth mother. I will tell you if more Adoption agency and couples start getting sued they will think twice about doing it again. But so far this adoption agency is batting 3 out of alot that they have done. Everybody thinks that if you sue your out for money un true Blood is more like it. You can’t hurt big adoption agency except in their pants pockets. Good luck to all of you.

   Posted by: sandra mc on January 4th, 2008 at 3:39 am

2. Refuse to give back the child to the father? The legal, moral, and biological father? That is incredibly arrogant. On goes the entitlement in the name of God. The Lord charges us to care for the widows and orphans, not take babies who have living parents who love them just because we want a baby. It’s cruel and defies this child’s constitutional rights.

   I’m so sorry.

   Posted by: Suzanne on January 7th, 2008 at 4:53 am

3. What you need to do is to go back to the original judge and tell him what happened and that they are refusing to return the child. Ask him for an “Order For Possesion Of Child” and tell him it needs to say that the police where these jerks are located have permission to enter the location the child is at. This works across state lines.

   Posted by: Illinois Mom on January 22nd, 2008 at 7:50 pm

4. The father had 9 months to register his name on the punitive father registery. He did NOT, until AFTER the baby was born. He obviously could not have been that interested in the baby to start with. By not registering, he lost his rights. This is so sad for the adoptive family. If the birth father wanted the baby he should have put his name on the registery at the beginning of the pregnancy and continued contact with the birth mother…not speaking to her at 7 months pregnant and then not talking to her again. I’m in full support of the Nielsen’s!!!

   Posted by: chrissy on March 26th, 2008 at 4:23 am

5. While biology is important, as another poster mentioned this “father” had months to register, come forward and be supportive of his pregnant girlfriend. It’s funny now all of a sudden hetr wants to claim owenership of this baby. Babies are a gift from God not a possesion.

   This baby has already bonded with the only mommy and daddy he has ever known, it is VERY selfish to rip him away from his family. As an adoptee I can tell you this is going to be horrific for this baby. Not to mention, it is not about the adoptive parents, all they did was desire a baby. They are innocent parties. Obviously the birthmother wants them to parent this baby. The birthfather is just being spiteful and selfish which happens more frequent than not in these situations because hje wants to get back at the birthmother. If they really love this baby as they claim to they would try and work out some type of open/semi open adoption with the baby’s adoptive parents. Those are the only REAL parents this baby knows.

   Posted by: GratefulAdoptee on April 7th, 2008 at 8:11 pm

6. April 10th, ‘08

   Once again I’m going to name Colleen Burnham and David McConkie who together ripped my only child from my only pregnancy away from me then when I challenged Colleen Burnham, after she publically praised herself and Children’s Aid Society of Utah from where she snatched my son away from me, she contracted with David McConkie to smear me. His financial interests in the matter are what kept David McConkie stalking and preying after me un-encumbered of which he had a consistent cash flow because Colleen Burnham was the treasurer of CAS of Utah.

   Larry Jenkins most likely is a willing accomplice with David McConkie who ’s the principal adoption lawyer for the Mormon church because if other adoption lawyers in Utah play ball with David McConkie he then rewards them either financially and/or otherwise. This describes some of the entanglement in which Baby O’Dea is mired in.

   Now I’m not tryng to scare anybody, here, but the fact is at some point Cody and his family not only will lock horns with Larry Jenkins but the force behind him who most likely is David McConkie. On the other hand I AM on the side of Cody O’Dea and his family because in speaking from deep anguish and experience I know the struggles and difficulties first hand. If I can help please let me know. My email address is above. Thanks.

   Sincerely,
   Kathy Caudle
   Salt Lake City, UT

   Posted by: Kathy Caudle on April 11th, 2008 at 4:49 am

7. These adopters do not care for Harvey. At all. It’s about THEM. If they cared for the boy as much as they claim they would graciously allow his REAL parent to take him home.

   Posted by: Anon on May 21st, 2008 at 8:57 pm

8. Why do you think LDS Family Services supports their decision? Why do you think they are paying the legal fees? They ONLY pay the birthparent lawyers and the lawyers who help with relinquishment. They will not pay any other lawyer fees. They also very firmly believe in following the law. When I thought my son’s mother was going to change her mind, I asked them what I should do. They said that I would need to immediately return the baby, and if I did not feel emotionally able to do this, I would need to pay for one of their case workers to return the baby. Just because this couple used LDS Family Services for this adoption, does not mean that LDS Family Services in any way condones their current actions. If you notice, Jenkins is the lawyer they retained, not a representative from the agency.

   They do need to return the baby, they are just unwilling to accept this fact, and are not thinking how much their time with the baby will make his transition into his father’s home that much more difficult.

   By the way, this is why the judge refused to accept our son’s mother’s termination papers until after the father’s rights had been terminated. He wanted her to be able to raise him herself, if she did not think the father would be a good parent.

   Posted by: Anon on July 6th, 2008 at 9:58 pm

9. PERSONALLY I THINK THAT THE ADOPTIVE PARENTS SHOULD KEEP THE BABY. HE WAS NEVER THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE AND HE COULD HAVE KNOWN ABOUT THE PUNITIVE FATHER REGISTERY LIKE EVER OTHER FATHER OUT THERE AND WITH THE INTERNET AROUND THESE DAYS THERE IS NO EXCUSE. AND THEN YOU WAIT TILL THE CHILD IN 9 MONTHS OLD AND ATTACHED THE WHO HE ALREADY CALLS MOMMY AND DADDY AND WANT HIM NOW. I’M GLAD THERE ARE REGISTERS LIKE THE PUNITIVE FATHER REGISTER SO THAT MAYBE I’LL BE ABLE TO GET MY DAUGHTER A GREAT DADDY NOT ONE THAT LEFT.

   Posted by: MICHELLE on July 15th, 2008 at 9:24 pm

10. Well if the judge had been following the law he would not have handed custody over to the natural father. The father knew his girlfriend was pregnant yet showed very little interest. In fact she didn’t hear from him for 7months. He had plenty of time to register with the putative father register list but did not do so until after the baby was born and his time to sign up had expired. He showed no interested in this child while he was in his mother womb. Had he shown interest or at least tried. By being there to support the mother, buying the baby items that he would need once he was born I could be more supportive. I think the birthmother is right this is not about a young man wanting his baby, its about his parents wanting their grandbaby. The father wanted her to abort that says a lot imo. The O’Dea case I view differently Cody actually wanted and expressed his want to raise his child before she was born and from what I have read at least tried to be supportive of his child’s mother. Basically he did what he was suppose to do.

    Posted by: jds on August 6th, 2008 at 9:03 am

11. I am writing this not in anger, but awe at the things that have been done, said, and assumed on BOTH sides of these stories. I don’t think the “person or People” to be blamed in this situation is LDS Family Services as a whole, but blame Ashley. Blame her ONE case worker, and the few other people that have done “tricky” things to get this baby into a home. I do NOT agree with what Ashely did, I don’t agree that it was the adoption agency that made her go to utah and have her baby, it was HER choice to go to Utah and place that baby it was her choice not to inform you of what was going on and it was her choice not to inform the adoption agency in utah as to what was going on. But I don’t agree with how you guys have gone about this situation either. putting blame on the LDS church, and the adoption agency as a whole. People made a choice not to give out VITAl information as to your son registering as the father. But also, as he wanted to be a dad, I don’t think he was thinking about the whole situtaion. And maybe he was, i don’t know. But in those letters I do believe that Ashely was thinking int he babys best interest, that she was thinking of how to provide for this child, and having to deal with a father (who seems to be involved whith this with such negativity) who won’t be ok with how this child would be raised in the LDS religion, or maybe Ashley was just thinking this would be better for EVERY one especially this baby. Placing her with a family that would have no difficulties raising a child, giving her EVERYTHING she could ever want. I am not condoning everything that has gone on, its sad and frustrating. But I think you’ve put out a perspecting on ALL adoptions that happen through lds family adoption agency as being negative and dishonest. maybe you need to look into all the other cases of the percentage that haven’t been like yours. Its very sad that your sitaution has occurred and i hope that things work out for you guys weather it being getting the baby back or being able to be involved in the childs life. But I think you need to get your facts strait on ALL sorts of things you’ve written. I think having someone/something to attack makes you feel validated in your crusiade to make this wrong right. but you are attacking the wrong someone/something. its not about the lds religion at all, its about ashley, and about the case worker, not the religion

    I pray for your son, and for the baby and for your family. That you’ll have peace and that life will be as it should and things will work out like they should.

    Posted by: jena on October 7th, 2008 at 5:49 pm

12. You people who keep talking about the “puntitive father registry” are crazy. This is a father who wants his son. You only have to register as a child’s father if you’re not listed on the birth certificate. We have read NOTHING to that effect. The mom has 6 months to change her mind - why shouldn’t the dad? LDS family services has done this OVER and OVER to young parents (makes AND females). They pressure these kids into giving up their babies. How horrible can you be? Do any of you have kids? Imagine them being taken away from you? AS A MOTHER, if I had adopted a child and the biological parents wanted the child back - I would GLADLY and broken-heartedly give them back THEIR child. Children are people. They deserve family. Idiots.

    Posted by: Ariana on October 9th, 2008 at 7:58 pm

13. How is it that the father of this child is to blame when it was the girl who lied and left the state to give her child up for adoption? You don’t think this happes? Think again. These adoption agencies prey on young adults. I know of one teen who was willing to give her baby up but wanted to spend 48 hours in the hospital with it first. The hospital said no. They took the baby while the MOM was sleeping and gave it to the prospective adoptive parents. The agency, what did they do? They were calling her daily and picking her up to take her to meet w/ the adoptive parents UNTIL the day she had the baby. They LIED about paying for a place for this HOMELESS 18 year old teen to stay while she was 7 months pregnant and allowed her to stay in a run down room paid for by the city (MY TAX MONEY!) Furthermore who do you think paid for all of her appointments and the birth? The state, my tax money, not the adoption agency. This should be criminal but it’s even stated in the booklet the baby sellers hand out(state funded medical care will pay for the birth of the child if the birth mother is eligible) BIRTH MOTHER?! What do you think these woman are a bunch of animals and only good to give birth? What kind of a term is that? It’s BIOLOGICAL MOTHER! To make matters worse when the dad wouldn’t sign the paperwork at one adoption agency she left the agency and went to a different one. The new adoption agency didn’t care, they put an ad in the paper. I’ll tell you what in my state, there is NO REGISTRY and a dad doesn’t lose rights because he didn’t know the woman he was with didn’t have a miscarriage (or stillborn). If the woman lies to the judge then the father STILL has rights and can still take custody of the child. For those who are unlucky enough that your state requires a registry, if the woman is promiscuous do all the men she was with before and after her last menstrual cycle have to sign up? I’m assuming at least 2 weeks before and after last menstrual cycle to be safe. I mean that’s a lot of guys for some woman. Do you know how ridiculous that is?

    Do you know how those children will feel when they find out that their adoptive parents KNEW their BIOLOGICAL dad wanted to see them and take care of them but they were sold like cattle and treated like property and kept away from their REAL FATHER?

    If my mother did that I would find it hard to forgive her. (I did not grow up w/ my bio dad but not because mom kept him away, he didn’t care to raise me) She told me about him when I was little I don’t remember not knowing. And here these adoptive parents steal a child, keep it and pretend life is going to be grand? Wait until the child becomes a teen or 18. “I loved you so much I stole you and wouldn’t give you back, even tho the courts told me to. It’s all about ME ME ME”.

    You people who preach about the this father not registering in a certain time, is that all you have? Give me a break. You question the grandmother and tell her that it’s ok for her NOT to see her grandchild? Let someone try and take my grandchild from me. Try it because the wrath of God will come over the person who does. This woman is being nice considering her own grandchild was STOLEN!

    For the grateful adoptee, that’s nice you are greatful, but would you be so greatful if mom and dad prevented you from seeing your grandmother and father who loved you so much they had websites put up and were BEGGING to see you? Is that what your parents did to you? I highly doubt it or you wouldn’t be so greatful.

    If babies are a gift from god and not a posession, then explain why the gift is being kept against the law? The reason why is because to the adoptive parents that child is a posession. I’ve seen biological parents play the posession game when their kids are young. “He’s not going to see the baby she/he’s mine”.

    What you all fail to realize is this child is going to grow up one day. The child will not stay young forever. The father and grandparents are missing out on important milestones in their child/grandchild’s life. These years can not be given back. If the adoptive parents cared at all they would AT LEAST send pictures and videos if not allow them to see the child (even if its under the protection of police and body guards). For the love of god if they loved that child they wouldn’t keep it like a house they just bought but hand it back to the father, the real father, the father who loves his son and created him. The father whom the courts TOLD these people to hand the child back to. The FATHER who didn’t get a chance to have his child because the biological mother left the state and gave away HIS child.
    My gosh people have you no compassion?

    Wait until your child has a child. Then come run your mouth. Until then don’t you dare tell the grandparents how they should feel.

    You remember being 20. How many people were scared at first and discussed abortion. Abortions are NOT a crime. It’s NOT against the law to discuss them. It’s one of the THREE OPTIONS: Adoption, Abortion or Raise the Child. It’s awful funny how the woman was allowed to make the decision and the father wasn’t. His only option was if the woman decided not to sell her child he’d get to see it. Nice option! How would any of you like it if your childs other biological parent GAVE AWAY your child? That’s what Ashley did. She is partly to blame but she was young, and I am sure the adoption agencies saw $$ in their eyes when she appeared! They are in the business of making money, don’t kid yourself. Although their are some non profit adoption agencies this isn’t one of them. I am sure they pushed for her to give it up so they could make a few extra bucks. Sickening! People who put down and slam the grandparents and father for wanting to see that child is sickening.

    No I’m not related to nor do I know either family. I am just disgusted by how these people were treated and more disgusted by how so called “loving adoptive parents” treat their adopted children like property.

    If they loved the child enough they most certainlly would see the heart ache they are causing now and in the future and would let the child be with the father and grandparents. Even if the adoptive parents are selfish, let them see the child until the child is old enough to make up their own mind. Then you won’t be accused of keeping the child away, like the adoptive parents did. Kill them with kindness!

    Posted by: Horrified on December 2nd, 2008 at 12:29 pm

14. I meant when you get custody of the child let the adoptive parents see the child still. Kill them with kindness and prove to your child/grandchild that you are much better people!

    Posted by: Horrified on December 2nd, 2008 at 12:36 pm

15. UTAH

    THE ADOPTION WAREHOUSE STATE<

    WHERE AN ABUSIVE AND NEGLECTFUL IS PERFECT FOR A CHILD, ESPECIALLY IF IT IS MORMON!

    Posted by: LDS SUCKS on January 24th, 2009 at 11:50 pm

16. iwas on in court 19th january 2009for 5daya trying to get custerdy for my grand children be caose my son in law hit my grandson and put himin hospital .the judge refused to give children back to me be cause they say the 2boys need spishal care and my age 62 was to old and my wife got bad hip she as had to replasements. they have now put the boys up for adoption can you help me or advise me on how to get the boys back. this case was baset on lies by sosial worker .my solicitor picked her up on quite a few lies . the childs gardian was supost to be independent but she admited in court all her information came from the social worker who had said all the lies.i love the 2 boys and will do any think to get them back we are only alowed to see them for 1 hour every 3 months.your faithfully john davies

    Posted by: john davies on March 4th, 2009 at 8:52 am

17. I personally know the Nielsons and what is written here is slander. They are amazingly good people and you all are very misunderstood as to what really happened.

    Posted by: Emily on March 15th, 2009 at 4:59 am

18. Of course the Nielsons are fighting it! Do you know what it does to any child of any age to be moved from the parents he is familiar with to someone new? How can you make this family out to be such horrible people? They didn’t sign up to kidnap a baby, they signed up to adopt one, as far as they are concerned they are in the same spot as the father, fighting to keep their child.

    Posted by: Rose on March 17th, 2009 at 7:35 pm

19. What I get from all this is that the adoptive family, the Nielson’s feel that they didn’t do anything wrong and just want to raise the child they rightfully adopted. I personally don’t believe they-re wrong in that aspect. I do believe however that the entire system is biased against fathers who aren’t wed to the mother. This I know from experience. Not matter what knowledge is available, the father shouldn’t be blamed for not knowing about or when to file in this registry. This is complicated stuff to a young man having his first child and he’s not gonna know everything about the laws and what he should do legally before hand.

    There are 2 sides to every story so I’m not going to argue about who was right or wrong between Cody and Ashley. I do know that if Cody is anything like me, then he wanted to be in his child’s life from day one. If the adoptive parents are truly good ppl then they should allow the biological father the right to raise hia son.

    Posted by: Father on March 25th, 2009 at 8:40 pm

20. А знаешь почему?

    Posted by: Костин on April 21st, 2010 at 2:57 am

21. So did the Neilson’s keep him or does his dad have him?

    Posted by: Andrea on July 28th, 2010 at 12:25 am

22. No child should be adopted without proper consent given by both parents regardless of circumstances. Adoptive parents should never Fight a biological family for custody!! The Biological family should always be given first choice to raise their own flesh and Blood. This is wrong of any adoptive family. I feel for these families fighting for their children. I fought the state of California for my infant nephew and was granted a court order for him to be placed with me and the foster family fought me with a new judge and won. Ken and Meg Jones of Los Gatos betrayed the courts and our family when they became foster parents in California all in the name to adopt a infant. Never stop fighting for your family member!!! Never give up hope! I still pray and write letters hoping to find just one senator or lawyer willing to help me undue what California has done. Baby Bruce AKA KC Jones I love you more every day and miss you more than I can ever say!!!

    Posted by: MK Blamires on August 5th, 2010 at 12:58 am

23. Contact the hospital of where the child was born.
    In there statement they actually claim that they care for there patients well being.
    Good luck
    Nathan Abbey

    Posted by: Nathan Abbey on August 14th, 2010 at 11:14 pm

24. If you have a court order in your state stating who has legal, physical custody, in the state where the child was born, you need to go into Utah and get the child over the border into your state.

    Whilst Utah & the adoptive family hold physical custody of the child, you’ll be banging your head up against a wall.

    Once you have the baby over state lines where you hold juridstiction, you have all the protections of the court and state police, because you’re the one with the legal document, physical custody of the child in the state the child was born.

    Simple.

    Posted by: Anon on March 30th, 2011 at 2:26 pm

25. so I do not usally comment to anything but this really moved me. I watch dateline and was in tears when your wife confronted the shady defense lawyer. Something need to be done to stop Utah and the |LDS. I do sure hope that some good morally faced mormons stand up against this as it is going to cast a bad light on their faith and state. THIS IS WRONG

    Posted by: Leeanne on August 23rd, 2011 at 2:56 am

26. isnt there babies for adoption that are legal? Why do normally good people think that this is alright??

    Posted by: Leeanne on August 23rd, 2011 at 2:57 am

27. A question. In these cases, and there are many of them because Utah’s laws legalize kidnapping, where men have custody in their home states, if someone were to take the child out of Utah and back to their home state, is there anything that could be legally done? I mean, if you have custody, it can’t be kidnapping, right?

    Another question for the pukes who call themselves adoptive parents: how can you take someone else’s child? Are you really so desperate and selfish that you would steal a child from his/her biological parent? How will you feel when your child grows up and hates you when they find out their bio parent wanted them and fought for them, and you only cared about your own selfish needs. This is mind boggling to me, I will never be able to comprehend how someone can think it is ok to take a child from a bio parent.

    Posted by: anonymous on September 13th, 2011 at 7:08 pm

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