| Nov 08 2007 12:44 PM | Post #86 |
| Oct 12 2007 0:47 AM | Post #84 |
Love you all,
Mary
| Oct 06 2007 12:05 PM | Post #83 |
I heard from Kelly just the other day. I really need to get on Origins and check out what i've missed - I've been so busy! I'm thinking about you guys too!!
| Oct 06 2007 9:54 AM | Post #82 |
| Sep 25 2007 21:57 PM | Post #80 |
| Sep 24 2007 8:42 AM | Post #79 |
| Sep 15 2007 23:26 PM | Post #75 |
| Sep 15 2007 4:34 AM | Post #74 |
~Dawn~
| Sep 12 2007 6:57 AM | Post #73 |
| Sep 11 2007 16:02 PM | Post #72 |
I have hard copies of where I got these quotes from in case you think I'm making anything up.
This is a myspace comment Ashley's mother wrote to Ashley's older brother. This kinda tells you where her head's at.
"Jason, I just want everyone to know how proud I am of you and the man you have become. I love you and I am so happy that you have convictions and you stand uo for them. You are a great son, and a good brother and you are going to make a wonderful husband and father when that time comes! And you will do it in the proper order."
Proper order, how sad for the child who shows up ahead of time, but read on...
The following are quotes from Ashleys brother to Cody:
"You are pretty lucky that I am not there right now, that's all I have to say about that. You are in no shape to be raising a child and neither is she. You got a job with enough income to have a baby? Do you even know how expensive it is?"
"Look man, I had a scare with a girl once as well, I am still not even sure if it's mine or not. But, I am just letting it be cause that's what she wants and we agreed that she won't come after me later if she finds out it's mine. Really you should take a step back and see if you are able to raise a child."
"So you mean to tell me, that when you slept with my sister you intended on having a baby??? I think you are full of shit and it was an accident. Yes it is a gift from God I agree with that. But I know that my sister is not ready to have a child and like I said before I don't think that you are either. In the best interest of the child, adoption into a loving family makes perfect sense where she can have a father and a mother together in a family to take care of her. Ashley and I know what it is like to not have a father as well, my parents divorced when we were very young. I know what you are feeling but it's not heathly to raise a child when one parent wants nothing to do with the other. Excess drama that's not even worth it. For the sake of this child, walk away man, just let it be. I feel that you are not ready for a child."
This is a very mormon family with strong mormon beliefs. This is also a family who by their own admission did not do things in the 'proper order' yet are hell bent on making sure they do it that way now. It appears to me children in this family who are born 'out of order' aren't included in the family fold.
The law of the land is not to be taken into our hands because we think we know best, especially when it comes to parental rights. The law is the law.
The Olea family has made it quite clear they decided based on what they feel is 'proper'. I'm sorry, but the law does not give them that right.
Ashley and Cody made this baby, this was no immaculate conception. Cody is the father whether the Olea family likes it or not.
Ashley has signed away her rights, and the Adoption Center of Choice has custody of Cody's child, and it is with them we battle, not the Olea family. They've done what they have done.
Does this give you clearer insight? Perhaps I can post the comment Cody made to Jason that may help you even further try and get some more insight.
"Im sorry you believe what you do but i dont feel i need to defend myself, your sister and i both know the truth and that is all that matters. You explained how you have been through a similar situation and the thing that stuck out to me was how you described it as a "scare". To me this is not a scare but a gift from God. I have wanted to be a father my whole life and for reasons unknown to me, Ashley wants me to have nothing to do with this little girl. I respect the decision you made in your life with your situatiion but there is no way i will ever let your sister give our kid up for adoption or leave me out of her life. It is a right I have as the father. My father decided not be an active part in my life and I grew up without him. It has hurt me my whole life and I promised myself that I would never put a kid through that. My daughter will not go through the hurt I did, it's a simple as that for me Jason."
I can post the letters Laura, Ashley's mother wrote to Cody and myself trying to convince him to walk away and how the baby needs to be in a home with two parents, but I'm hoping you get the point.
I hope I've properly addressed your concerns.
| Sep 11 2007 15:50 PM | Post #71 |
| Sep 11 2007 14:01 PM | Post #68 |
| Sep 11 2007 13:16 PM | Post #67 |
Sending hugs!!!!!!
| Sep 06 2007 20:37 PM | Post #66 |
| Sep 05 2007 23:23 PM | Post #64 |
He maintains the same lifestyle he did when Ashley became pregnant.. he is still having sex outside of marriage and living in sin with MOM's approval. Check their myspace pages, Melinda sings the praises of Cody yet he lives in sin (but heck so does she!) Cody recently got engaged... how convenient. just in time for court. Like the Judge didn't see through that contrived show.
You act all pious and injured but I have read the mean, hateful libelous posts about Ashley form you and Shannon. Yet amongst your ingnorant supporters you appear as though butter wouldn't melt in your mouths. We never see any posts from Cody or any word from him. All the letters written on his behalf are not HIS words, they are his mothers. She and Shannon are the imputus here and Cody is just reveling in being a hero while his heart is not even in it..His mother and sister are the ones actually pulling the puppet strings here.
Leave this little girl alone...She has a loving mommy and daddy, they are her world.
IF an injustice was done to Cody.. do the righteous thing and continue to fight to change the law, to bring justice but justice is NOT served by removing this precious little girls from her home. Face it, you will never have her, sad as that is, you have to get over your own selfish desires and DO THE RIGHT THING!!! Fight the system if you must but leave the child alone. Use your personal pain for the greater good, protect the next parent who gets themselves in this mess...via poor decision, drug use, illicit sex and immature individuals. These are the consequenses that one must face when they fall short of God's will for us. Consequences can be painful that is how we learn but the pain must not be foisted on the child.
This is a selfish act. Had Cody remained close to the mother perhaps this could have been avoided, but he didn't "man up", he left and Ashley did what she thought was right. Your family is not worthy of this child. You are a confessed wild child melinda and your adult kids are the evidence of your trail of wreckage. They are not ready to be the example of responsible adults to any children. They are still self centered, self absorbed kids and this effort to wrestle the baby girl away from her parents is a prime example of that. WWJD?
He would change laws that need changing but not let the baby suffer for the adults screw ups.
Leave the baby be. She doesn't deserve the upheaval.
| Sep 05 2007 22:28 PM | Post #63 |
Mary
| Sep 05 2007 21:54 PM | Post #62 |
I cried my eyes out when I read your story and have included your sweet baby girl in my prayers and meditations. I wish you justice and piece. Take it too the top. I had my heart broken my this agency too. I wish you wellness and that you do not give up as there is good in the world even in the darkest moments.
Sending you healing vibes!
| Sep 05 2007 12:53 PM | Post #61 |
I agree with you; I have often wondered what Ashley has endured in all of this. As; you know; I was a young woman; in this postion. I learned I have to forgive myself; so I can forgive others.
Know you, and your family are still in my prayers, and thoughts.
Hugs,
Kell
| Sep 04 2007 13:09 PM | Post #60 |
We all know the pressure nowdays to not have children and how easy it would have been for her to end the pregnancy.
We all make mistakes, all of us and we all have to deal with the Lord. We have to be careful when looking at the actions of another to think their particular action is worse than our shortcomings and failures before the Lord.
God says he looks at the heart of a person. I'm praying for healing for Ashley, total healing and peace.
Ashley gave birth to my granddaughter and I will be eternally grateful to the young lady for giving this baby the gift of life. While we do not agree with her decisions after she gave birth, I wonder how hard she was guilted and pressured to do what she did.
I'm not so sure the pressure on this young woman to 'comply' was not more than she could stand up to.
Never-the-less, we will continue to battle for the baby as we extend forgiveness to Ashley.
We can't expect God to forgive us and cover us in grace if we want him to deny the very thing to someone else.
| Sep 04 2007 11:17 AM | Post #59 |
Oh yeah, I forgot, I am not "allowed' " to post on this website
| Sep 04 2007 8:33 AM | Post #58 |
Cody and Melinda,
I have tears in my eyes and can't find the words to express the pain I have in my heart. I hope that your daughter/grandaughter is safe with the people she is currently with, however, I will pray that she is lovingly and rightfully placed in your arms someday very soon. This is a tragedy and Ashley will be judged by God as will every person who has taken part in keeping YOUR child from you.
I will pray for guidance from God, that if there is anything I can do - He will show me the way.
I will pray for you and your family - for strength to continue your fight for what is right and just. I will pray that God will guide you and give you comfort and resources to never give up!
Blessings to you Cody and Melinda and your family - especially to your little girl ~
| Aug 31 2007 12:05 PM | Post #57 |
| Aug 30 2007 17:06 PM | Post #55 |
Mary
| Aug 30 2007 13:25 PM | Post #54 |
This is the other family who wrote once again another posting that we find terribly offensive trying to guilt us into letting the baby be using vulgar and hateful techniques. They have followed us where ever we go on the net, posting distasteful and quite franky untruths about Cody and the rest of the family.
This is so sad, because whether they like it or not, that precious child is half O'Dea as we recognize it is half Olea. Pretending it is not does not make it so.
We have told them MORE THAN ONCE we are quite clear where they stand and are not interested in hearing it over and over. The purpose of this site, this guestbook is not to spew venom on the birth mother or the birth father, but to correct what we feel is an injustice and violation of the fathers civil rights, hear others stories and to educate people about a flaw in the legal system.
Among other things, they referred to Cody as a mere sperm donor.
Quote: "You are not her family, your son was the sperm donor by choice. This baby is not an O'dea, she never had that name. She has a home, a family and will not miss growing up in your dysfunctional family. Read your scripture Melinda and you'll realize that what you are doing is motivated by selfishness nothing less. God would never bless behavior like your family's."
I could go on, but you get the picture.
Again I will say to the birth mothers family, if you wish to say such things, please make your own site where you are more than welcome to do so, but it's not welcomed here.
There is no personal bashing of the birth mother, the birth father, extended family or the precious child. If anyone wishes to do so, we will ban you.
Thank you for your co-operation.
| Aug 30 2007 11:12 AM | Post #53 |
There's much about this case we're not discussing because we're in litigation so you are getting merely an outline of what is going on, but not all the specifics. Those specifics I believe would alter your perception I'm sure of who is really involved and to what degree.
We have a Mormon attorney, so we must not be so anti-Mormon as is perceived by some of the public. Believe me, we can put religion to the side when judging ones character. I truly respect and like our attorney and feel he is a good man doing the best he can for my son and grandbaby.
With that being said, my interaction with the LDS Family Services left me with a very sour taste in my mouth. Perhaps after this is all done they will be looked at a little harder for some of their business practices.
Sarah, you were not privy to the phone conversations I had with LDS Family Services and because of that you have limited knowledge. We have not shared every detail of what has transpired.
I would hope you would have an open mind and not think your religion who is made up of fallible people is not capable of doing anything wrong. I personally dealt with those representing your church when it comes to their dealing with our situation, so I have firsthand knowledge and experience.
I don't care if these people were Mormon, Catholic, non-denim,agnostic, they were not ethical in dealing with us. It just so happens, their dealings with me were of a business nature with them representing the Mormon church.
It's Codys' constitutional rights that are being violated here and what we're focussing on.
Strangers are keeping captive a mans' child for the sole purpose of hiding her from the biological father so they can raise her no matter what it does to him. They do not even have custody of her, custody of Codys' child, natural born child is held by the ADOPTION CENTER OF CHOICE! How sick is that?
How sad it is you have a Mormon brother who uses the gift of life to legally battle and represent this agency. Larry Jenkins, I'd suggest you google him, this is not his first rodeo in this arena.
Hard to believe in this day and age this type of thing is going on. If it does not affect you now, it may at some time. Your children, friends, relatives, those you love may have their lives messed with because they have a baby someone else covets.
It will be most interesting to see what has truly transpired and who played what part when this is all said and done. I believe truth will be revealed
My focus is getting Codys child back, and then seeing what can be done about the adoption laws, specifically putative fathers registry being national instead of this state to state nonsense which sets up an ideal atmosphere for shady adoption agencies.
Sarah, I don't hate Momons, my grandchild has in her heritage Mormonism and there is nothing about this precious child I would hate. We have Mormon friends whom I love. I don't see them as Mormons, just incredible people whom I love. My son was dating a Mormon girl, what does that say?
I HATE deception and injustice in any sector of society and this you and I agree on. I will not excuse unethical behavior anywhere no matter where I find it. I've had to take a good hard look at the 'church' I affiliate with and the areas where evil practives have crept in and taken a stand against what I have seen. Nothing here on earth is perfect, nothing man-made is beyond reproach. When you involve humans, corruption can come in.
Again, thank you for your support. I believe Sarah we have the same heart when it comes to family and the things we hold precious. Bless you and yours Sarah
| Aug 30 2007 9:08 AM | Post #52 |
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| Aug 29 2007 23:08 PM | Post #49 |
| Aug 29 2007 22:10 PM | Post #48 |
Now, the adoption agency that was actually used, which appears to have been used in other cases in the same situation, should certainly be shut down! I do agree that they have acted unethically, but they are not the Mormon Church.
I have written to our government officials about the laws and hope that enough is said to them that laws begin to change. I don't believe that any parent who sincerely wishes to be a parent and has the support necessary should be kept from that opportunity.
Do I think that the Church will avoid negative publicity? Well, I think that we would each avoid negativity if given the chance. Do I think it has anything to do with Mitt Romney running for president? No. The Church has had much negative publicity throughout the years and we have suffered much persecution, but we always persevere.
I do wish your family all the best, and I do believe that God will bless you with the right outcome of your granddughter coming home; because He does want children to be with their parents. I honestly pray for your family each day and hope that your granddaughter is home sooner rather than later!
| Aug 29 2007 20:17 PM | Post #47 |
One cannot be sued for voicing one's opinion. That's my right of free speech. (You have rights, I have rights, we all have rights.)
Your church won't sue me, it would look ridiculous and your church doesn't need any bad press with one of your own wanting to run for the office of the President. No, they won't sue, they have no suit and bad press is not wanted at this time.
What's the Mormon church going to sue me for anyway, money, my grandchild, my voicebox, what?
I'm not going to debate the Mormon religion in this forum. You have a problem in Utah concerning adoptions and it's being noted all across the United States.
I'm sorry you're offended, but quite frankly you threatening me with your church suing me over voicing my opinion offends me!
So who's offence is valid? Yours? Mine? Both? Neither?
lol
I'm not offended, but not threatened either.As I said in my posting:
"Now, I never mentioned any place by name, so if you don't feel you run a baby mill you should not be offended. In fact, you should disdain baby mills because they make you look bad also.
HOWEVER, if I hear from you, that tells me something, a WHOLE LOT OF SOMETHING!"
